tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post8451535104166830231..comments2024-03-20T16:30:09.690-05:00Comments on The Fifth Column: Tales From The CultUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-78153866956856486992010-03-24T16:32:59.356-05:002010-03-24T16:32:59.356-05:00+J.M.J+
One little correction: the Lifeteen movem...+J.M.J+<br /><br />One little correction: the Lifeteen movement did not become non-denominational. It remains Catholic and has repudiated its founder, see:<br /><br />Letter Regarding the Laicization of Dale Fushek<br />http://www.catholicyouthministry.com/letter-regarding-the-laicization-of-dale-fushek<br /><br />You must be thinking of that non-denominational "Praise and Worship Center" that Fushek established. That's totally separate from Lifeteen, which remains a Catholic movement under a new leader, Randy Raus.Mystic Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13855946715167787708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-10356919146358530992009-10-02T20:09:09.099-05:002009-10-02T20:09:09.099-05:00Probably not the answer you hoped for, but I see i...Probably not the answer you hoped for, but I see it more as a general Internet phenomenon than something peculiar to West defenders. People feel free to lob personal attacks when they feel safe behind a computer screen. In my work (at an Internet site) I find people often say things to me in email I cannot imagine they would ever utter to my face.<br /><br />When you ask your detractors to identify themselves, it stifles that appeal. So they evaporate from the discussion.<br /><br />Where I do see a pattern with the anonymous West defenders is that they have been especially nasty and personal toward you, apparently out of their perception that your analysis is rooted in vindictiveness. It stands to reason a person so disposed would probably also be disposed to do it anonymously.<br /><br />A person disinclined to hide will be mindful of his words. He also might not be so rash in his judgments of others.<br /><br />I dare say, such a person would be far less likely to respond so vehemently, because he would consider more carefully the content of what you are saying first.<br /><br />So no, I'm not inclined to suspect the anonymous posters are really associates of West. However, it is a valid question, and it is very curious that they will not go so far as to deny it.Brendanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15123119830359717991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-81020577949810687672009-10-02T18:54:38.015-05:002009-10-02T18:54:38.015-05:00You know, Brendan, I'm beginning to notice a p...You know, Brendan, I'm beginning to notice a pattern.<br /><br />Every time I ask an anonymous or oddly named Westian to identify themselves and their connection to Chris West, they disappear into the ether.<br /><br />Why do you think that is?<br />It's the oddest coincidence.<br /><br />It's almost like invoking the name of Christ over demons, only different somehow. I can't quite put my finger on it... Hmmm....Steve Kellmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509461318016670424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-85508972266412378392009-10-02T18:30:26.174-05:002009-10-02T18:30:26.174-05:00What is wrong with saying a bishop is motivated by...What is wrong with saying a bishop is motivated by a desire to appeal to youth? The endorsement of these disgraced (or disgraceful) movements and figures is not disputed. This motive is as positive as one can be, considering, and it is certainly the most probable. What is the alternative?Brendanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15123119830359717991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-66698437082818002232009-10-02T15:34:13.818-05:002009-10-02T15:34:13.818-05:00Oh, brave Anonymous, whose judgement we should all...Oh, brave Anonymous, whose judgement we should all respect because.... well, because you judged it prudent to remain anonymous...<br /><br />I wasn't the one who said, "Hugh Hefner is my muse" or "I see historical connections between Hugh Hefner and John Paul II." <br /><br />So, I suppose Chris West must have libeled himself. I hope both of him have a good lawyer. <br /><br />And do you really mean to say that Archbishop Chaput and/or Cardinal Rigali are not capable of falling into the error of following the latest fad in order to appeal to the nation's youth? Are they impeccable in that area? <br /><br />Pray, how do you know these things?<br />Your new learning amazes me. Could you explain again how you know the earth is banana-shaped? <br /><br />Or maybe you could just give us your name and your connection with Chris West, if any?Steve Kellmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509461318016670424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-54210111338787003352009-10-02T15:22:49.870-05:002009-10-02T15:22:49.870-05:00How very disingenuous of you to say that West cons...How very disingenuous of you to say that West considers Hugh Hefner "a kind of hero or saviour, someone who is somehow spiritually on par with John Paul II." Utter nonsense, if not libel.<br /><br />And do you really mean to insinuate that Archbishop Chaput and/or Cardinal Rigali have been motivated by a desire to follow the latest "theological fad" in order to appeal to the nation's youth?<br /><br />Very irresponsible writing, in my judgment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-6437456565773381802009-10-01T11:06:54.653-05:002009-10-01T11:06:54.653-05:00As you pointed out, most movements that try to mak...As you pointed out, most movements that try to make religion the new hip and happening thing for youths usually falls apart because they have removed themselves from orthodox teachings and pushed the theologically correct boundaries to try to make it relevant to them. Dumbing down religion certainly hasn't helped when scandals occurs because of the gross misunderstandings that comes out of it. The secret to getting their attention and keeping their attention are two different things. Pope John Paul II was very good at showing how to get their attention. We really need better ways to keep their attention.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08381087750301180720noreply@blogger.com