tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post6039905017363290641..comments2024-03-20T16:30:09.690-05:00Comments on The Fifth Column: The Day the Sun (ahem) the Bishops DancedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-51232379033538559422013-07-31T23:01:07.682-05:002013-07-31T23:01:07.682-05:00Hello again, Steve!
OK, I'm dense!
What is w...Hello again, Steve!<br /><br />OK, I'm dense! <br />What is wrong with the term 'the Church's brand'?<br /><br />Should I have said 'the Church's standing' or 'the Church's reputation'? <br /><br />What I was trying (unsuccessfully) to communicate is that such images can get stuck in people's minds. If this one sticks, then we should expect it to repel masculine boys from considering the priesthood.Kneeling Catholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16797815971446807261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-86506583586574419752013-07-30T15:38:32.091-05:002013-07-30T15:38:32.091-05:00Jordanes, if Zuhlsdorf wasn't making the compa...Jordanes, if Zuhlsdorf wasn't making the comparison, he would not have to pull the photo.<br /><br />There were a lot of ways he could have made that statement - he chose to make it using Nazi imagery. It's the first thing that leapt to his mind, and he obviously felt it appropriate to post.<br /><br />So, who am I going to believe? The people defending him or my lying eyes?<br /><br />Steve Kellmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509461318016670424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-25885141333223894272013-07-29T21:46:17.086-05:002013-07-29T21:46:17.086-05:00Father Zuhlsdorf obviously didn't call the bis...Father Zuhlsdorf obviously didn't call the bishops Nazis nor equate their actions with the Nazi Holocaust, as some foolish people have said, and it's a pretty dumb thing to claim that he did -- but people who are offended are prone to think and say dumb things.<br /><br />But his use of that photo was imprudent and unhelpful, and made it pretty difficult for people to hear what he was trying to say, so it's a good thing he took it down.<br /><br />Granted, the bishops were doing something pretty cringe-inducing, but cringe-inducing liturgical abuses or paraliturgical actions are pretty common in Latin America and, well, most of the Catholic Church these days. There's a lot more serious stuff going on than what those bishops did, or than what Father Zuhlsdorf did.Confiteborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17951083063448447552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-63947325744925657262013-07-29T11:39:04.926-05:002013-07-29T11:39:04.926-05:00The Church's "brand"?!?!
Sigh...The Church's "brand"?!?!<br /><br />Sigh...<br /><br />Steve Kellmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509461318016670424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-25476376940013831442013-07-29T11:08:32.257-05:002013-07-29T11:08:32.257-05:00I won't praise Fr. Z, nor bury him.
Such a ...I won't praise Fr. Z, nor bury him. <br /><br />Such a video, with Bishops in-full-regalia doing a 'Village People' routine, runs a great risk. It is truly impossible to 'un-see' some things. The Church's brand is suffering greatly with young men due partly to such behavior, where its men are encouraged to act in un-manly ways.<br /><br />The video is hilarious. It is also hilarious that progressives will attack traditions, like kneeling for Holy Communion, as being undignified. If kneeling is an affront to human dignity, then aren't bishops forming a chorus line also an affront?Kneeling Catholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16797815971446807261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-31393517513183085602013-07-29T09:28:25.834-05:002013-07-29T09:28:25.834-05:00Ron Van Wegen, Zuhlsdorf could have used a lot of ...Ron Van Wegen, Zuhlsdorf could have used a lot of different ways to get that sentiment across.<br /><br />He chose a Nazi meme.<br /><br />That was absolutely uncalled for and unconscionable. I haven't offended against his character, I have merely described it. You find it offensive. Rightly so.Steve Kellmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509461318016670424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-7588321432190030442013-07-29T01:56:30.361-05:002013-07-29T01:56:30.361-05:00Reading the other comments on that page was quite ...Reading the other comments on that page was quite amusing, to say the least, of what I could stomach anyway. <br />Having attended WYD in Sydney in 2008, with many friends having taken part in them from 2002 till now, and along with being part of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal here in Australia, I've got to say that it is refreshing and inspiring to see Bishops getting involved in the little and unimportant things like this.<br /><br />The graces that I have seen flow out from these events have been amazing. The great love that develops for the Body of Christ, whether it be the Church in the form of its pope, bishops, priests and religious and lay people, or in the form of its Sacraments, especially in the Eucharist, can only be described as a specific grace from God.<br />The desire of the youth to get out and be involved, and the hunger that they have for God to truly know and love Him, isn't something just on the surface. And to know that the bishops are willing to engage a new generation of Catholics who want to bring, through the Holy Spirit, new life to their parishes and dioceses, is encouraging.<br /><br />But what would I know? I'm a cradle Catholic in Sydney Australia, and had no idea about the extraordinary form of the mass until only a few years ago.<br /><br />MichaelMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14130344474821519693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-50251120155613631122013-07-28T22:19:42.808-05:002013-07-28T22:19:42.808-05:00In fact, one famous Catholic "conservative&qu...In fact, one famous Catholic "conservative" blogger priest whose name begins with Z specifically and visually compared the bishops who participated to Nazis. Imagine - a priest of God calling Catholic bishops "Nazis".<br /><br />Um, no he didn't. That's not what I got out of it at all. What I saw in that nazi photo was the courage of one man to stand against the majority. Father Z did not call bishops nazis and for you to state that he did is an offence against Father Z's character.<br /><br />Ron Van Wegenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15181898839992597105noreply@blogger.com