tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post9221496211074437363..comments2024-03-20T16:30:09.690-05:00Comments on The Fifth Column: Why Do Pro-Lifers Lie?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-15423520439338942222014-03-10T23:34:23.359-05:002014-03-10T23:34:23.359-05:00Here, if you want to prove racism against blacks, ...Here, if you want to prove racism against blacks, go <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db136.htm" rel="nofollow">here:</a><br /><br />I've pulled out the useful figures from pregnancy, race, outcome 2009 table about halfway down the page:<br /><br />(All numbers are in thousands)<br />Total pregnancies: 6369<br />White 3207 = 50.3%<br />Black 1253 = 19.7%<br />Hispanic 1474 = 23.1%<br /><br />Total Abortions: 1152<br />White 383 = 33.2%<br />Black 445 = 38.6%<br />Hispanic 252 = 21.9%<br /><br />Blacks have about 20% of the pregnancies, but nearly 39% of the abortions. Hispanics, on the other hand, have about 23% of the pregnancies, and about 22% of the abortions. <br /><br />So the racism is primarily directed against black babies. But given the numbers about Mississippi and Georgie, I would bet it's happening mostly in the north and east, not in the south. <br />Steve Kellmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509461318016670424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-25455279117295095742014-03-10T22:52:57.796-05:002014-03-10T22:52:57.796-05:00In order to be racist, not only would black women ...In order to be racist, not only would black women have to make up 12% of the population, but black PREGNANT women would have to be only 12% of the PREGNANT population.<br /><br />AND, in addition to that, the black PREGNANT women would have to be having abortions at a rate HIGHER than 12%.<br /><br />But that's exactly what we CANNOT show. In fact, according to the state and CDC stats, at any given time black women are much more likely to be pregnant than white women are. <br />Steve Kellmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509461318016670424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-50065316446138748632014-03-10T22:43:16.032-05:002014-03-10T22:43:16.032-05:00You have to look at the CORRECT population stats -...You have to look at the CORRECT population stats - you can't just compare populations based on race alone.<br /><br />You have to compare populations based on WHO is getting pregnant. <br /><br />First, black women make up 12% of the population, but do they make up 12% of the FERTILE female population?<br /><br />In other words, if the 12% of the population which are black women are carrying 40% of the pregnancies, then - in order to be proportional - we should not be surprised if they have 40% of the abortions. <br /><br />Conversely, if the 88% of the population that is white women turn out only to be carrying 60% of the pregnancies, then when they have 60% of the abortions, they are having abortions at a rate proportionate to their pregnancy rate.<br /><br />I don't doubt that abortionists are racists, but neither of these articles actually DEMONSTRATE what I would like to believe. <br /><br />Steve Kellmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509461318016670424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-57297614609031020652014-03-10T19:49:11.397-05:002014-03-10T19:49:11.397-05:00I'm puzzled. Is it insignificant that blacks, ...I'm puzzled. Is it insignificant that blacks, who represent about 12% of the population have almost 40% of the abortions? And is it not significant that Planned Parenthood locates most of its facilities in inner city, often lower class neighborhoods? What does one have to do to make the statistics meaningful?<br />Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-18945679888749257322014-03-05T22:00:01.140-06:002014-03-05T22:00:01.140-06:00I really don't think he is being intentionally...I really don't think he is being intentionally misleading. However, I do dislike the whole "abortionists are racist and trying to kill all the blacks" meme. Planned Parenthood was founded by eugenicists, but I really doubt that either its leadership or its rank and file are actually trying to wipe out black people. In addition, the focus on supposed racism distracts from the fact that abortionists are murderers. The problem isn't racism, its mass infanticide.Patrick Buttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014672329453331576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-65444410816039373022014-03-04T18:34:59.213-06:002014-03-04T18:34:59.213-06:00Lying about statistics just makes pro-lifers look ...Lying about statistics just makes pro-lifers look stupid, and it doesn't save a single baby's life.<br /><br />If you like looking stupid AND thereby condemning more children to death, then you go ahead and spread stupid stories like the two CNS stories above. You will accomplish both your goals.<br /><br />If, on the other hand, you want to be taken seriously by people who are on the fence about abortion, then I suggest you give them accurate numbers and accurate interpretations of those numbers. <br /><br />What this guy did was just stupid. <br />Steve Kellmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509461318016670424noreply@blogger.com