tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post111748470428909017..comments2024-03-18T20:47:26.461-05:00Comments on The Fifth Column: Was Jesus Christ a Sith Lord?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-1121617027634067442005-07-17T11:17:00.000-05:002005-07-17T11:17:00.000-05:00You brought up some interesting points about moral...You brought up some interesting points about moral relativism. However, you seem to have either omitted or overlooked the most compelling evidence of a Sith connection to Jesus Christ. During the movie, Emperor Palpatine tells Anakin of a former Sith Lord, ostensibly the founder of the sith, who had obtained such tremendous “unnatural” power that he was able to overcome death and heal those around him. Palpatine then states that this Sith Lord taught everything he knew to his disciple, who betrayed and killed him. Palpatine says that it is strange, this Sith Lord was able to save others, but he wasn’t able to save himself. <BR/><BR/>This story is analogous to the story of Jesus Christ, who had such power that he was able to heal the sick, cure people of their infirmities, and raise the dead. Jesus taught everything he knew, including the healing power, to his disciples. One of the disciples betrayed Jesus and had him put to death. As Jesus hung on the cross, the people cried out “He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.” Matthew 27:42.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-1117746193851840612005-06-02T16:03:00.000-05:002005-06-02T16:03:00.000-05:00Some pray believing that "God must then obey, and ...<I>Some pray believing that "God must then obey, and if not what's the point of being christian."</I><BR/><BR/>That's not religion; that's superstition (Zippy's blog is going over this exact point).<BR/><BR/>I agree with your last sentiment. I think Lucas was merely using good/evil, religious themes etc. as a plot skeleton on which to hang his special effects meat, not intending to really make any big statement. Hence, its rather incoherent presentation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-1117730770377613322005-06-02T11:46:00.000-05:002005-06-02T11:46:00.000-05:00Actually his Force is more of a simplistic view on...Actually his Force is more of a simplistic view on God in christianity. Jedi seem to manipulate the Force much like we try to manipulate God with prayers attached to promises that we have problems keeping. Some pray believing that "God must then obey, and if not what's the point of being christian." However, every war believes that God is on their side. As with the Force, free will is the stumbling block - the action is good/evil not the Force.<BR/><BR/>As Lucas has said, Star Wars was not meant to be religious revelation, however any time you consider good/evil, religion has to be in the frame of reference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-1117723174042954852005-06-02T09:39:00.000-05:002005-06-02T09:39:00.000-05:00Except that the "Force" is not a personal transcen...Except that the "Force" is not a personal transcendant creator omnipotent god in Lucas' vision, but an impersonal "energy of existence" that can be manipulated - for good or evil (more a ying yang kind of thing). Note how in the first movie, Obi Wan tells Luke to "use" the Force and that it "obeys your commands" rather than controls you.<BR/><BR/>My personal observation is that Lucas was not out to make some kind of deep statement about the nature of existence - rather, he took a mish mash of different philosophies - some eastern elements, some western elements, some Christian, some pagan - to make a really cool sci-fi epic. It appears his focus, particularly in the last three installments, was to throw as much sci-fi wizardry as possible into the flicks without the same attention to plot coherence, quality dialogue and actor performance. As one reviewer from Rolling Stone said, Lucas is "a great producer, average to below average writer, and horrible director. He seems to have the uncanny ability to take real life actors and turn them into cardboard cutouts." I had a hard time feeling any empathy for any of the characters in these last installements. But, again, the effects were great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-1117713300125691002005-06-02T06:55:00.000-05:002005-06-02T06:55:00.000-05:00George Lucas has had one failed marriage already (...George Lucas has had one failed marriage already (which may explain some of his ideas), but his viewpoints on religion are well known. A creator makes everything in their own image - man and nature are a reflection of His image if we believe He created everything. Therefore, God is in everyone and is everywhere to a certain degree (because nature is everywhere) - hence, the Force. Much like the church's view that celebacy is a good thing for the chosen priesthood, so too for the Jedi. It is actually more christian than pagan in much of the logic. Anakin is angry with the Jedi because he can't do what he wants - sounds like many ex-christians I know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-1117633387677867512005-06-01T08:43:00.000-05:002005-06-01T08:43:00.000-05:00What I meant with my last comment is that I don't ...What I meant with my last comment is that I don't think it was a particularly conscious effort on Lucas' part to create a pagan picture (although, on a subconscious level, that could certainly have influenced his story line). I think it is mostly due to a real lack of interest in any particular coherence in the plot - just as long as everything gets answered (why Annakin turns evil, where Luke and Leia came from, etc.) that's enough coherence. Throw in some eastern mystic voodoo, and move on to the important stuff - well choreographed light saber fights, fantastic worlds and gadgets, cool spaceships and scenes, etc. This movie was first about eye candy, and a far distant fifth about mind candy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5774317.post-1117632943527179212005-06-01T08:35:00.000-05:002005-06-01T08:35:00.000-05:00You got it exactly right. Except that the acting ...You got it exactly right. Except that the acting (short of Obi Wan) was pretty lame as well - my 8 year old could have read the cue cards better. The muddled theme seemed to fit with the muddled acting. But the effects were great.<BR/><BR/> As Lucas proved with the other two installments, the plot and actors are there as a backdrop to the special effects.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com